tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post114969618487750051..comments2023-10-10T08:46:17.713-04:00Comments on drulogion: Critical Receptivity, or, How to avoid becoming a theological jerkJohnLDruryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120179182431573460noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post-1151199850134347462006-06-24T21:44:00.000-04:002006-06-24T21:44:00.000-04:00Very nice post. Critical Receptivity is a very goo...Very nice post. Critical Receptivity is a very good explanation of where i'd like to try and land, i've kinda just left the critical switch toward "off" in my brain for a while. THanks for the look back on your stages of development, who knows maybe there's a stage four that nobody's told us about yet. :)Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609153568084115091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post-1150651915259122712006-06-18T13:31:00.000-04:002006-06-18T13:31:00.000-04:00John,I would respond about my thoughts - but I can...John,<BR/><BR/>I would respond about my thoughts - but I can't hang with you and Ken Schenck. All I can say is that I have always loved the person you are and am excited the way God is going to use you as a professor or maybe someday a president.<BR/><BR/>Appreicate you,<BR/><BR/>NateNatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18042151189573800310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post-1150423493825624822006-06-15T22:04:00.000-04:002006-06-15T22:04:00.000-04:00Good phrase, critical receptivity. I see lots of p...Good phrase, critical receptivity. <BR/>I see lots of people in stage one (oh right there, me being in stage one!). Stage one is hard to stay away from. We Christians love to scandalize (uh, I mean "reform") the body of Christ. What else could be blog about?<BR/><BR/>Stage two...may have been in this one for half a second but I like my own ideas too much.<BR/><BR/>Stage three...giving people the benefit of the doubt. This goes back to something you wrote a few weeks back, realizing that your own ideas change over time, (a la Dr. Schenck's experience...though it appears he doesn't think he will change again). Humility, kindness, and love will be present here to get this one down. I do not think this is wishful thinking. If God is real and active in the church, and I believe that he is, he can show us how to properly and gracefully engage in critical receptivity. Not easy, but definitely possible. <BR/><BR/>I just don't want to see people go the way of some of the emergents and leave the church behind. The "misguided," "fundamentalist" evangelicals deserve grace and truth too. Let's not make the same mistake they made by isolating them. This is stage one silliness.<BR/><BR/>Okay, off the soapbox.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263524756571593358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post-1150380935319161662006-06-15T10:15:00.000-04:002006-06-15T10:15:00.000-04:00Does "turning it off" count if it's not in a servi...Does "turning it off" count if it's not in a service, but in a planning meeting for a service? Man, I've had to turn off my critical switch in order to see past something I don't like, that may edify someone else, and edify myself for that matter if I'd let it. <BR/><BR/>When you spoke of the critical spirit, I was reminded of back when Lennox and Bud Bence swapped back and forth at College Church in the interim time before Steve Deneff came. Bud spoke of preparing our hearts for worship, before coming to gathering. I must say I have let this go, and felt it was an integral step...I am going to try this again. <BR/><BR/>Ideally the third stage is the best place to best...where you don't turn off your brain, but also don't let a critical spirit rob you of a chance for the Sprit to move in you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14736201.post-1150376789771288702006-06-15T09:06:00.000-04:002006-06-15T09:06:00.000-04:00I think I am an interesting mixture of condescensi...I think I am an interesting mixture of condescension and low self-estimation. I disdain what I call pop-Christianity largely because I am disdaining myself twenty years ago. I see the whole Dobson Christianity that elects people like Bush as a heap of ignorance and emotional non-think. <BR/><BR/>But it's not like I think I'm the smartest thing since Einstein. In fact, I am constantly beating myself up for not being able to "play with the big dogs." And part of my disdain for Christian book store Christianity is that as far down in the pack of thinkers as I am, the melting pot of shallow ideas seems so far beneath where I think I am.<BR/><BR/>But I ultimately see this as a matter of individual ideas rather than people. It is not a question of intelligence really so much as faulty paradigms. And I retain my own stupidity more than I'd like to admit.<BR/><BR/>So other than doing therapy on your blog, I think criticism needs to be aimed at change to be valid. Stewing over the dinner table doesn't accomplish much of any value other than programming your children to be bitter complainers...Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.com